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[edit] dragon scale

i know it hasn't been in any of the beta testing/demos for a while but would the Dragon Scale be a crafting material trophy too? cause when the Slay the Shatterer event was playable, it had no actual use Getefix 21:43, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

You get trophies from enemies themselves, I doubt you'd get one from chests. It's probably a crafting material or something. Konig/talk 21:46, 16 April 2012 (UTC)
i looked at the list and it was the tiny scale that reminded me of the dragon scale Getefix 21:52, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

[edit] Hoof? Hooves?

I got a few severed hooves from centaurs at the start area. I had to sell them to make copper to repair my armor. If I get anymore I'll get an image. Yumiko ^,~ 14:59, 28 April 2012 (UTC)

Just uploaded an image and created the page.--Zerebruin 19:12, 31 August 2012 (UTC)

[edit] Storage

Are there any storage methods available for trophies? During the beta I couldn't seem to deposit them in my account vault, or find any other place to store them. Flay 09:41, 6 May 2012 (UTC)

Yes, you can store them in the bank, just in the "generic" section (not in the "Collections"). There doesn't seem to be any use for them, though, so I sold them all off rather than fill my bank with soulbound junk. —Dr Ishmael User Dr ishmael Diablo the chicken.png 14:24, 6 May 2012 (UTC)

[edit] Trophy, Crafting Material, Salvage Item, Package, or Junk?

Um.... most of this list looks like crafting materials, not trophies. Looking at the precedent set in GW1, if it's used for crafting, it's a crafting material, not a trophy. gw1:Monstrous Claw I am fine with the GW1 precedent, partly because crafting materials do not exclusively come as trophy drops - You can salvage items for it. Looking at GW2, we get about 7 kinds of drop:

  • Equipment (stuff to wear or wield)
  • Crafting Material (stuff that is used directly in crafting, without other steps like salvage)
  • Junk (to date, only saleable to a merchant)
  • Salvage Item (identifies itself as same)
  • Package(Double-click to open, puts stuff in inventory)
  • Consumable (Double-click to use, grants xyz)
  • Quest item (Do these ID themselves as such? Regardless, merchants don't accept these and they don't salvage)

Of the list, I would exclude Crafting Materials (trust me, we don't need that sort of confusion with bone, which appears as a crafting material, a environmental object, a bundle, a consumable (or is that a package?), and if you allow prefixes/suffixes on 'Bone', you get junk items and quite probably a few other things) I would ask that we categorize which of these are trophies, and why.
My view:

  • Equipment - No - Trophies can't be worn.
  • Crafting Materials - No - Trophies don't ever come from salvage
  • Junk - Yes
  • Salvage Items - Yes - A trophy can BE salvaged.
  • Package - Yes - but only when not commonly available elsewhere.
  • Consumable - Yes - but only when not available via merchants or crafting (Woo-hoo, bread drop. Think that goes for like 20 karma at the merchant...)
  • Quest item - No - not useable outside the quest.

Should theme factor into trophy/non? Would Saddle bags count as a trophy? How about unidentified dye? —Torrenal 15:38, 1 July 2012 (UTC)

Do we even need a designation for "trophies" in GW2? We only used it in GW1 as an unofficial term for the stuff dropped by monsters that you could trade at collectors for other stuff. I don't think it has a place in GW2. —Dr Ishmael User Dr ishmael Diablo the chicken.png 16:07, 1 July 2012 (UTC)
Dunno. I think some of the package items might roughly fit the GW1 definition of trophy (saddle bags & things like them) Honestly, I'm fine replacing this page with a stub stating 'These are something from GW1 that does not appear to fit the GW2 architecture. You might find what you are looking for at one of these other pages...' I know if we delete the page, it'll just come right back. Also, we have a number of items listed as 'Trophy' on their pages - Category:Trophies. Might could use some cleanup, I think. The only exception I see, is if mousing over an item identifies its type as 'Trophy', much as mousing over Recipes (the object that you buy from merchants to learn a recipe) identifies them as an 'Unlock'. —Torrenal 16:21, 1 July 2012 (UTC)
Everything in that category is a crafting material, except for Ice Shard which is probably a Junk item. I have not seen anything identified as a Trophy in-game - there was Crafting Material (sub-typed as Basic, Refined, or Upgrade Component), Junk, and Salvage. Packages (e.g. Tiny Saddle Bag) didn't have any type. I think consumables said Consumable, but I'm not certain.
The Trading Post categories include a Trophy category, but that's the only place I've seen that word, and I don't know what would be listed there. —Dr Ishmael User Dr ishmael Diablo the chicken.png 17:00, 1 July 2012 (UTC)
I'm thinking about using the term to describe that crafting material currently in the category. Namely: raw crafting material that is used as an activator. If you have a better nomenclature suggestion, that would be helpful. -- Dosvidaniya 17:11, 1 July 2012 (UTC)
Dos, not sure that's a good idea, because materials come from more than jsut dead stuff. That aside, Trophy is an in-game thing, so whatever we put here needs to match the in-game usage. Until we know what that is, this page is in limbo. —Torrenal 03:36, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
(Reset indent) Tonight, I'll post a list of the trophies, as known by the trading house in game. This page will need content updated to match, however that list will exclude quest item based trophies (commonly soulbound) as well as anything other soul bound trophy. —Torrenal 19:03, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

[edit] Will there be a GW2 | Nicholas the Traveler?

Will there be a GW2 Nicholas the Traveler?
Colin: "We certainly hope our content will always remain entertaining, no matter what. But in the event that you do find yourself lacking entertainment, a certain great-great-great-great grandson of a certain traveller will travel across Tyria constantly to make you laugh."

Does this mean that good ole saint Nicholas the Traveler will still be handing out presents to good boys and girls? or will it be like futurerama and he will be killling all the naughty people he finds?

I look forward to searching the future landscape for signs and portents Rudhraighe 16:39, 1 April 2012 (UTC)

If so there may be a reason to keep the Soulbound Trophies Rudhraighe 16:41, 1 July 2012 (UTC)

You mean soulbound Junk - that's the item type they have in-game, not Trophy. —Dr Ishmael User Dr ishmael Diablo the chicken.png 17:01, 1 July 2012 (UTC)
The so-called 'Junk' is referred to as both 'Junk' and 'Trophy' in game (BWE3/stress test 3). I'm talking about items like Broken Claws, Cogs, Needles, Globs of Globby Goo, Pebbles, Warm Stones etc. These are classified as 'Trophy' if you scroll over them. But, they also fit the description of 'Junk' in the wiki (can't be salvaged, soulbound, no apparent use yet other than selling to merchants), and they probably accumulate in oiled packs first (not personally confirmed). However, given that they are so named 'Trophy' in their in-game description, I don't see why they shouldn't be part of this page. 115.64.154.35 21:45, 2 August 2012 (UTC)
My above statement was made before BWE3, there was no Trophy item type before BWE3. —Dr Ishmael User Dr ishmael Diablo the chicken.png 22:58, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

[edit] BWE3 Trophies List

These are the 22 Trophy items available or known by the Trading Post. Lets get these onto the main page, and remove all the crafting stuff NOT in this list.

There's a bunch more of Trophies, but most of them are event bound (think: Soulbound quest item) If wqe can split them into sub-categories for the page, I'd encourage it Even just tradeable/soulbound might do, but I'm sure better groupings can be devised.—Torrenal 01:33, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

Everything that calls itself "Trophy" in-game should be categorized at Category:Trophies. Then we can just provide a link to that category — since these items have no special function, there's no need to provide a list of them directly on the page. —Dr Ishmael User Dr ishmael Diablo the chicken.png 03:20, 30 July 2012 (UTC)
perhaps we can omit the list on this page, but DPL keeps the list current, and I've never much liked either the format of categorie pages, or more importantly, the 'widgets are x. Click here for a List of widgets', especially when 'x' is as nondescript as it needs to be for trophy.—Torrenal 06:14, 3 August 2012 (UTC)
Probably worth noting that the current DPL-generated table is going to lose track of crafting materials as they're converted to using the {{crafting infobox}}, because {{Item list}} depends on including parameters from {{item infobox}}.

Extension:DynamicPageList (DPL), version 2.01 : Warning: No results.

, Pristine Toxic Spore Sample are at risk (the first few have already been converted.) — Rari User Rari sig.png 06:56, 3 August 2012 (UTC)
Are they really trophies? I think most of those were simply mis-labeled on the wiki, back when some people were using "trophy" as a synonym for "fine crafting material." —Dr Ishmael User Dr ishmael Diablo the chicken.png 12:37, 3 August 2012 (UTC)
I certainly wouldn't consider them trophies at all. I would think that the salvage items (those items specifically used for salvage like Pile of Metal Scrap) and the crafting items shouldn't be considered trophies, only the items that are handed in for renown. However, given the list above, I assumed that Torrenal was quoting an ingame source labeling them as trophies and obviously in-game wins (even if it is confusing.) — Rari User Rari sig.png 22:41, 3 August 2012 (UTC)
Just a thought, but what's the betting these trophies suddenly become sought after with a festival type event? Halloween, Wintersday - it could happen... — snogratUser Snograt signature.png 21:40, 31 August 2012 (UTC)

[edit] NEW UPDATES AFTER RELEASE

Just got a green trophy worth 1s8c called Heart of Fire from by a Fire Imp Champion and couldn't find any reference to it on the wiki. Also while i was at it i picked up some Volcanic Earth Elemental Cores which were part of the Heart Quest 'Help Ambr's krewe defend he lab'. I'd add them but i don't do wiki code lol and its gonna start to look a pointless mess as it is, the trophy categories need separating properly --The preceding unsigned comment was added by 86.31.175.185 (talk).

[edit] Clean up

Trophy should be ordered by rarity and usefulness.

[edit] List is missing Tokens

All tokens are trophies (that's what the game says they are, the word "token" isn't used on their tooltips). This list is missing all tokens. Perhaps it's a good idea to have a main category (i.e. Trophy) and sub-category (Salvage item, Event item, Junk, and Token), so that this list can be complete and subdivide itself into meaningful sections. --Alad 21:22, 3 April 2013 (UTC)

The list is useless, trophies aren't related in anyway--Relyk ~ talk > 21:38, 3 April 2013 (UTC)
It's duplicating Category:Trophies except it adds the item icons. I agree, it's useless. —Dr Ishmael User Dr ishmael Diablo the chicken.png 21:41, 3 April 2013 (UTC)
True. What I also meant was that all "Tokens" need to be categorized mainly as Trophies, since this is what their official category is. This is actually what distinguishes them from currencies and makes them appear in inventory. --Alad 00:14, 4 April 2013 (UTC)
Relyk's quick-fix (recategorizing Category:Tokens from Category:Items to Category:Trophies) introduces an inaccuracy, because token is not an explicit item type, it is a derived item function. Each one of the dungeon tokens should individually be categorized as both trophies and tokens. There are also tokens (Glob of Ectoplasm) that are not trophies. —Dr Ishmael User Dr ishmael Diablo the chicken.png 00:20, 4 April 2013 (UTC)
Perhaps just use the type and type2 (type=trophy, type2=token) if there's code that considers type2 as a sub-category. There are only so many tokens, easy to edit each of them. --Alad 00:28, 4 April 2013 (UTC)
But token is not an explicit item type displayed in-game, and we shouldn't imply that it is. —Dr Ishmael User Dr ishmael Diablo the chicken.png 00:35, 4 April 2013 (UTC)
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