Talk:Sohothin

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can swords have brothers??? ^Teo^ 22:37, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

Can sites have sisters? GWW is a sister site to GW2W. It just means they were made at the same time and are identical. And you screwed up your sig. Calor (t) 22:40, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

i know what they mean.. i was just beeing sarcastic.. and what do you mean, i screwed up my sig?? ^Teo^ 22:50, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

no w8.. wasn't beeing sarcastic.. i was ironic.. :) i think ^Teo^ 22:51, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

It says on Magdaer that this sword is its sister though. :S — Galil 14:38, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Leeeeeeeeeeeeeegacy weeeeeeeeapon -- Armond Warblade 08:32, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

o.O RoF? He died on Shiverpeaks ... --The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:TheKall92 (talk) .

Yeah, but he still had his sword in Hell's Precipice. Calor 00:52, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

gotta love that fiery dragon sword, oh and if two or more identicle objects are mede by the same person at similar (close) times that they are known as sister or brother objects....i think

i think his sword is gone out to sea now, because of the tital wave from the return of Orr...

Contents 1 copying? 2 The place of Sohothin 3 Image 4 It's magical... 5 Heres The Sword on its own 6 Removal of image 7 I have an idea

[edit] copying?

It seems like the Lord of the Rings sword "anduril" and the dead city (path of the dead)... i hope LOTRO doesn't get mad at this? or interpret like i did... (77.100.32.86 16:46, 5 May 2008 (UTC))

Hahaha totaly same lol,I was thinking about it first time i read this.79.101.64.16 18:08, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

Oh yeah, JRR's going to sue us? Every MMO copies LOTR. It's a causualty of the fantasy genre.--70.71.240.170 23:34, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

This doesnt remind me of LotR at all, stupid supposed reference --Justice 09:30, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

Uh, how does this seem familiar with Anduril? In LotR the ghosts were put to rest because their curse was lifted because they helped the king of Gondor (The sword is only proof of being the king). In GW, the ghosts may be put to rest because of the sword returning to them. I see no similiarity. Silly IP's don't know what they are talking about. -- Konig Des Todes 09:41, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

[edit] The place of Sohothin

Rurik came back as an undead by Abbadon to in The Real Of Torment. Isn't his sword there then ? just wondering

Most likely, yes.-- Shew 22:52, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

Uhh.... Rurik was animated by Khilbron. And he was killed in the Ring of Fire, he never went to the Realm of Torment (don't think his spirit even went there since we never see it there). His sword should be near the volcano called Abaddon's Mouth on the Ring of Fire Island Chain. -- Konig/talk 23:59, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

I swear I thought he was talking about the Ring of Fire Islands. Honestly.-- Shew 00:20, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

It's true. Somewhere in my mind I thought that Rurik and Shiro where the new agents of Abbadon, but it where Shiro and Vizier Khilbron. My apologies.

[edit] Image

I don't suppose there's any concept art or renders we can use rather than a screenshot? I'd like to avoid OGW images where possible. Actually, maybe a shot of it in Rurik's hands will do... --Santax (talk · contribs) 21:03, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

But during GW2 Rurik is dead :/. --BloodStain 21:13, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

[edit] It's magical...

I always wondered why my FDS didn't give me invincibility like it gave Rurik. -~=Sparky (talk) 19:16, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

You can get rurik killed in the ascalon academy mission. Thats like lvl 4 grawl and we all know how stupid they are... Justice 23:48, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Heres The Sword on its own

^^^--Neil2250 , The Zoologist 18:58, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

[edit] Removal of image

I don't see how it's misleading :/ they're not going to change the appearance of it between OGW and GW2. --Santax (talk · contribs) 13:38, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

"they're not going to change the appearance of it between OGW and GW2": nice to know we have a GW2 designer contributing to the wiki, we common players so far have no hint of how things will look other than expecting a rather obvious upgrade to the game's engine improving, if not outright changing, the look of everything in the game. Erasculio 14:28, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

Oh, well in that case we better stop describing the Dredge as "mole-like" in case the designers decide to make them dinosaurs in GW2. I seriously can't tell whether you honestly believe this or whether you're being deliberately obstructive anymore. --Santax (talk · contribs) 14:50, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

I doubt the difference in the look will be that different between the games. There will be changes, but chances are, it will still be a FDS of some degree. -- Konig/talk 15:05, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

As a compromise, the caption could read "Sohothin, as it appears in Guild Wars". (In the trailer and concept art, we've already seen an "FDS" in the hands of Rytlock, and it looks very similar to GW's. I think it's safe to assume (or at least there's no reason to assume otherwise) that Sohothin is still an FDS; thus GW's and GW2's Sohothins should look the same/similar.) -- pling 15:33, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

The moment we show an item and say "Here it is" showing a screenshot, people will believe that's how it looks in GW2. That could lead to all sorts of trouble, such as people assuming that the screenshot actually comes from GW2 and thus that the newer game's engine will be a bad one, etc.

And of course, even ignoring the more pragmatic point of view, it has been 250 years. We don't know if a sword, regardless of it being a Fire Dragon Sword or not, is going to remain unchanged for such a long time; we don't know if being close to the Bloodstone has not changed anything about the sword. And in GW1 Rurik's sword was just a common weapon, but now that is has been retconned into being a magical artifact, it is extremely unlikely that it will have the skin of a common Fire Dragon Sword, without anything to show how it's special.

Between all those arguments, there is no point in keeping an image here and showing it as "the" Sohothin. Showing it as it looked like in GW1 wouldn't have those problems, but then again it's pointless; it would be better to wait until we actually have a screenshot of the real GW2 item, and then have a screenshot showing it, instead of showing a random FDS from a different game. Erasculio 18:12, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

You know Erasculio, even after 10 years of video games, I still don't consider a flaming sword with a dragon head guard to be "normal" or "common." I think it's more likely that they'll keep the appearance because it's rather iconic of Guild Wars and Ascalon. I mean, who doesn't remember Rurik's flaming sword? But even disregarding that, Pling's suggestion is a good one. 15:51, 2 February 2010 (UTC)

And i go to all that trouble...--Neil2250 , The Zoologist 16:05, 2 February 2010 (UTC)

[edit] I have an idea

How about we add the fiery dragon sword back into the picture, but insted saying 'Sohothin on its own' we say, 'What we Guese Sohothin look like' ? , i think it sounds good.what about everyone else?(People like lore+pictures :P)--Neil2250 , The Zoologist 14:33, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

It's not a guess. We know that's what it looks like. We just don't know if it will continue to look like that in 250 years. Although we're pretty sure it will. 16:12, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

Then lets add it back in...?--Neil2250 , The Zoologist 09:24, 5 February 2010 (UTC)