Talk:List of fansites
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Germans have More GW2 sites that English do... thinking Anet is placed somewhere in America you would think the oposite --Neil2250 , The Zoologist 
16:21, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
- Nahh, German gamers are extremely, far more dedicated, thus having way more fansites up. - Infinite - talk 17:25, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
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[edit] Verifiability/trustworthiness
So I'm thinking this is a pretty good page to advertise your phishing website or whatever. With GWW, I think the fansite list was constructed based on the official GW website's list; however, we don't have something like that for GW2, so these are just random fansites (or otherwise) being linked. Anyone have any solutions? I think we need some kind of minimum standard introduced. -- pling 
16:13, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
- VERY good point, Pling. I was on one fansite, and suddenly it gave me a virus that made me have to reconstruct my computer to get rid of it. Obviously not all fansites are secure, and there should only be a list of the verified fansites that are KNOWN to be secure/trustworthy. Whether that means regular examination or weekly testing, there needs to be some better way. Amannelle 18:11, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
- For one, I don't think blogs should be listed; therefore, I'm removing the Italian blog. I don't know any better way to manage the fansite list than to test them.-- Shew 21:48, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
- I want to prevent us from having to have a special policy just for this page (like on GWW), but some basic rules like "only list them here" or "has to be notable" should be followed. Where whether a page is notable, imo, should be here on the talk page. --Xeeron 21:19, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
- I agree, decisions on this talk page are enough. Now to come to those decisions. I see two options:
- Go through ArenaNet's communication sites (their main website, Facebook, Twitter, etc) and list the fansites they link to or recommend. Also, list spinoffs of currently notable Guild Wars fansites. Remove any other fansite from the list (but we can allow exceptions when necessary).
- Look through the links currently on the page and that are put there in future, and try to see if they are appropriate. This could obviously be risky and may be less efficient; it'll be harder to review the non-English fansites, for example. There's also the issue of what we should define as "appropriate" - I'm guessing that as long as it's not a malicious site, it should be ok.
- My preference is option 1. -- pling
13:58, 5 March 2010 (UTC)
- For now, I am not sure that we can use any "official" list by ANet, seeing how that might not exist. That might be the best option if the decisions becomes contentiou later on, but for now application of common sense seems good enough for me. --Xeeron 17:07, 5 March 2010 (UTC)
- I agree, decisions on this talk page are enough. Now to come to those decisions. I see two options:
- I want to prevent us from having to have a special policy just for this page (like on GWW), but some basic rules like "only list them here" or "has to be notable" should be followed. Where whether a page is notable, imo, should be here on the talk page. --Xeeron 21:19, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
- For one, I don't think blogs should be listed; therefore, I'm removing the Italian blog. I don't know any better way to manage the fansite list than to test them.-- Shew 21:48, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
- VERY good point, Pling. I was on one fansite, and suddenly it gave me a virus that made me have to reconstruct my computer to get rid of it. Obviously not all fansites are secure, and there should only be a list of the verified fansites that are KNOWN to be secure/trustworthy. Whether that means regular examination or weekly testing, there needs to be some better way. Amannelle 18:11, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
[edit] Comments on this list
I vote for it's removal from this list. It's a brand-new forum. No posts whatsoever. This isn't the place to advertise. --Naoroji 
16:10, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
- Also, Guild-wars-2.net's forums are hardly noteworthy. I think that should be removed too (info only). --Naoroji
16:19, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
[edit] Criteria and classification
I haven't helped on the wiki much before, but I'd like to help out with community-related pages, starting with fansites. A fansite is a website by one or more fans.
[edit] Table columns
- Name (Default sort, linked to website)
- Description (Defining feature(s) and/or focus)
[edit] Proposed fansite list sections
- General communities
- (includes forums, news, mega sites)
- Resources
- (includes wikis, help sites, databases, maps, etc)
- Special interest
- (includes sites focusing on PvP, art, fiction, lore, farming, modding, etc)
- Non-English websites
- (the "Description" column is replaced by "Language", and sorted by this)
- Blogs
- (includes blogs and other personal fansites)
[edit] Proposed criteria
- Created or maintained by fans
- Dedicated to the game, or an aspect of it
- Meets fansite expectations and criteria for any fansite status described at the page: http://www.guildwars.com/community/fansites/program/ (Or something similar. Why wasn't this suggested at GWWiki?)
- IS NOT guild-specific
[edit] A note on notability
I believe notability based on official ArenaNet acknowledgement is nonsense. ArenaNet mentioned my blog on Twitter a few times, it's listed as a source for at least 3 articles on this wiki, and I've been linked in articles on large sites including Massively and Guru. Even my silly little blog would meet criteria. But I think other blogs are just as worthy of notice, and the community deserves a simple list of other blogs to know they're not alone, and feel "part of it all". I've read the wiki discussions from May 2007 on this topic. I think it's time to look at GW2Wiki's stance on fansites now, in the calm before the storm. I'd appreciate hearing the opinions of the bigwigs of GWWiki. I don't think we need articles specific to fansites (this main namespace list is ideal), but we do need to give more thought to criteria and sorting. (I hope there's not a rule on formatting in Talk pages :) Shaun|Nox 12:09, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
- I think there will be concern from those who've been around Guild Wars wikis for a while that content which is generated by the community is difficult and time consuming to control (builds, guilds, feedback). While this isn't in the same scale - we don't want to have a list of blogs which met the criteria once-upon-a-time but stopped updating a year ago. The easiest way for us to avoid that is to use an ArenaNet provided list of fansites which they've judged to meet the criteria for us. I like this because it means that we aren't tied to actively maintaining a list in 18mths time when the shine is coming off the game.
- The issue is there is no current official listing and the list we have of active GW2 fansites is probably incomplete and in need of tidying. Your suggestion for sorting the list and criteria seems fair. Many of us are happy to wait for the ArenaNet list - but if you are keen to take on this in the meantime Nox, I've got no objections. -- Aspectacle
22:46, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
- Echoing a bit what Aspectacle said, the big deal is to avoid this turning into a battle ground where editor A wants some site (e.g. his own blog) included, while editor B is strictly opposed. As long as everything stays peaceful, we don't really need the ANet list, but if some spats happen, refering to that list is the easiest way out. --Xeeron 20:51, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
