Talk:Edge of Destiny

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Request for redirect[edit]

I searched for "edge of destiny" and this page didn't show up. Someone should redirect it here, if possible, no? :) Plus, we already know it's coming out in December. (source: http://www.massively.com/2010/07/15/new-arenanet-blog-post-confirms-information-about-second-guild-wars-2-novel/) --217.129.133.230 12:31, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

Done. --Odal talk 12:46, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
I actually almost died when I saw the King last name on the book. Then I saw the rest.....I'm actually still very excited, as I love some of his works, but not as much had it been Stephen King. :P EiveTalk 17:23, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
That release date is likely a placeholder. But I wouldn't doubt that it is close. Or the intended but subject to change release date. -- Konig/talk 20:40, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
Heh. Stephen King would only write about adventurers traveling to Orr and being torn to pieces by Zhaitan's zombies. :P The preceding unsigned comment was added by Thalador Doomspeaker (talkcontribs).

most of king's books dont even end with main character deaths. he has made some pretty epic books about human character and spirituality (the stand). The preceding unsigned comment was added by 74.107.171.101 (talkcontribs).

Damnit Eive! I read the first sentence there and got excited myself :P --Santax (talk · contribs) 20:17, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
Want.--NeilUser Neil2250 sig icon5 Anti.png 08:42, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
Hope King is as good as Grubb and Forbeck, i quite enjoyed the style of GoA Shmyt 04:49, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

Hmm[edit]

>destiny's edge

>write a book

>call it edge of destiny

>it's about destiny's edge


I have a feeling this is going to be worse than Kingdom Hearts... --The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:Aliceandsven (talk).

Edge of destiny is a sweet ass title. And uhm, it's about Destiny's Edge. Problem, officer ? User MadSkillz1o1 sig2.PNG MadSkillz1o1 18:56, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
Destiny's Edge would be the same as Edge of Destiny, technically. Some languages don't have possessive terms, so if one were translate the guild's name directly from another language to English it would turn out to be "Edge of Destiny" and not "Destiny's Edge." Essentially, the book is not a rewording of the guild's name, but rather the guild's name itself. -- Konig/talk 20:37, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
To contradict you out of boredom, of is a possessive term (Which most languages have a version of). But other than that, you are correct. Although I'm not entirely sure what point the OP is trying to make. EiveTalk 23:34, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
I mistyped - what I meant by "possessive term" I actually meant possessive forms of nouns - to be precise, I mean such as "Destiny's Edge" - the 's isn't in most other languages (that I've seen) - same goes for contractions as well. I think the point that the OP was trying to make was that the title of the book is a cheesy play on words for the group. I was saying that the book is actually sharing the name of the group - thus not cheesy - if that's what the OP meant. Honestly, I think it was just a troll. -- Konig/talk 02:35, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

Tbh, Kingdom hearts was great. --NeilUser Neil2250 sig icon5 Anti.png 19:31, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

I agree with Konig. :) The languages I've studied all have "___ of ___" (the languages all being very similar, though: Portuguese, Italian, and Spanish). From what I can just see online, it seems other languages that do this instead of "'s" are: Afrikaans, Catalan, Galician, Haitian Creole, and Swahili. The rest seem to use "'s". So I guess "'s" is much more common, but not exclusive. :) --AmannelleUser Amannelle Me.jpg 21:27, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
Well... Russian (and other Slavic languages) have possessive inflections in general but you wont be using them for something like "Destiny's Edge" as proper translation will still be literally "[The] Edge [of] destiny", you might as well change it so it translates better. Biz 06:01, 27 December 2010 (UTC)

Release Date[edit]

After checking a couple of book stores' sites it seems that this book will be released on December 28th since all of the sites I checked all said it would be released on the 28th, it would seem to me to not be a place holder but the actual release date.--Elemental Phantom 18:11, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

If it's not on an official GW2 website (guildwars2.com/arena.net) then it probably isn't true. - Giant Nuker 21:08, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
More than a couple of online distributors are listing the date in Feb some time. I'd say the actual date is far from decided. -- aspectacle User Aspectacle.png 22:20, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
Wasn't the original release date stated by Jeff Grubb to be in December? I'd trust that for now, than "more than a couple of online distributors." December>December 28th>sometime in February. -- Konig/talk 23:53, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
As I said I don't think any date has been confirmed - the link on this wiki which is supposed to be a reference for a december release is laughable. So I think we're being a bit too forward with that assumption. The best I've seen recently is one of Ravious' blogs said that Jeff was saying book in either December or January during the cons. If you've got better than that I'd be interested. -- aspectacle User Aspectacle.png 00:46, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
Never said anactual date was confirmed. I would suggest putting that link as a reference, and rewording the sentence to read that it was planned to release in December or January. (Note the emphasis on the past tense, since we haven't heard of anything about it and we were told we'd hear more when its closer to being released, and it's almost December). -- Konig/talk 03:42, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
Done! :) -- aspectacle User Aspectacle.png 20:11, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
Amazon.co.uk expects to have my preordered copy in my hands on the 5th of January. Who knows though... User Radthor Dax Sig.png Radthor Dax 09:32, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

Still nothing on a release date for the book. Will ANet say "When it's ready" for this too?Vorch De Asph 17:46, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

December 28, 2010. Bobby Stein 19:53, 19 December 2010 (UTC)
Thank you Bobby. - Giant Nuker 21:53, 19 December 2010 (UTC)
<3 :3 --User The Holy Dragons sig.pngThe Holy Dragons 23:21, 19 December 2010 (UTC)
so it comes out on my birthday? AWESOME!!!Akbaroth 22:14, 20 December 2010 (UTC)

I has its![edit]

I was in Barnes and Noble today looking for something else and I saw a Guild Wars book. At first I assumed it was Ghosts of Ascalon but quickly noticed that the title was not Ghosts of Ascalon. There was only one on the shelf but I wasn't going to point out their mistake of shelving it too early. Sadly I preordered it amazon this morning. Fenyx 00:16, 24 December 2010 (UTC)

Barnes and Noble enjoys releasing books a few days early. I may have mine before the end of tomorrow... Here's hoping I can get in with all the last minute Saturnalia Day shoppers. -- Konig/talk 02:38, 24 December 2010 (UTC)
I was at Barnes & Noble earlier and saw it. Should have seen my expression.... Anyways, I owns a copy now... EiveTalk 03:15, 27 December 2010 (UTC)
because of the snowpocalypse in NY recently the shipment for over where i live has been delayed... seriously delayed...Akbaroth 02:13, 30 December 2010 (UTC)

Great Book![edit]

I'm almost finish reading this book ... will read that last chapters tonight ... and all I can say is that, like Ghost's of Ascalon, this is a very good book. It is also one of the funniest books I have ever read. Adventure, drama, and comedy all in one! That's all I'm going to say about it. Read it! You'll be glad it did. Kass Munroe 18:45, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

Well I'm glad you enjoyed it, but as for myself I can't say the same. I suppose being a bookworm has made me picky, but there were a lot of flaws in this book, it bothered me enough that I had to stop without even getting a fourth of the way through. Ghosts of Ascalon was decently-written and a good read, but Edge of Destiny seemed like something a middle schooler would write. The characters speak and act like pre-teens hitting puberty, not to mention they're unrealistic, none-too-bright, and underdeveloped. Nor do they follow the lore or many of the Races' cultural aspects. That said, the author probably had a short time period in which to write, and was limited in what details he was allowed to give (because the makers wanted to save it for the game). Also, Guild Wars needs to cater to their 12-15 age group, or those who don't read too much, so in the end it's understandable. Long-winded speech I suppose, but there you have it XD. --(UTC)Drasi

Nice [sic] quote[edit]

Made me remember the ED discussions, bad times. - Infinite - talk 22:25, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

Category[edit]

We have a "Ghosts of Ascalon" category but we don't have an "Edge of Destiny" category; and that's mostly because, while we have many characters categorized as "Ghosts of Ascalon characters", we don't have anyone tagged as a "Edge of Destiny character". What would you people like to do? The great majority of Edge of Destiny characters are extremely likely to appear as NPCs in Guild Wars 2, so only a few creatures (mostly those who die in the book : P) would be Edge of Destiny only characters. Do you people want to leave things as they are, or to create the Edge of Destiny categories and tag the characters and locations as necessary? Erasculio 11:03, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

I think it's the most sensible thing to make similar categories, ye. - Infinite - talk 13:56, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
I actually hadn't done such yet due to the discussion regarding the GoA locations - some didn't like that and a lot of the locations in EoD are pre-created and those that are not... have yet to be made. EoD also has a lot more named characters than GoA, so I wasn't sure how specific to go (e.g., do we add Knut Frostbear? What about "Foamfist"? Those two captains that don't have a name yet?) Basically - where do we want to draw the line with character and location making. I was going to bring this discussion up once I figured existing articles got the total expansion (we also need to go and expand the GoA articles now that we have the spoiler system settled). -- Konig/talk 21:13, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
Created the categories for currently existing pages. -- Konig/talk 21:45, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
I'm a bit in doubt about what we should do with those categories. I would really like to avoid the excessive categorization found at GW1W (example), so it troubles me to see that a few characters are already within a lot of categories. IMO, the Edge of Destiny categories (as well as the Ghosts of Ascalon ones) would be more useful in denoting characters and locations who do not appear in the game, so users would know where those characters come from and why they have never seen them. Basically, I think we should either add someone to the NPC category or to one of the book categories, not to both; so while Logan would be only at the NPC category, Dylan would probably be only at the Edge of Destiny characters category. Erasculio 21:22, 7 January 2011 (UTC)
Sometimes excessive categories is helpful (your example being my example), since they're related to so many things. I don't think that the EoD/GoA character categories should be limited to non-game characters - the former will have few not in the game (those who won't will be those who died most likely). So unless we redesign the purpose of categories, I don't think over-categorizing is an issue so long as they aren't unnecessary. An alternative to the categories for both character and locations would be a "List of <book> characters/locations" articles and those being categorized into the main category of the book. But I personally prefer the category, as it is easier to get from one book character to another than via the list. -- Konig/talk 22:47, 7 January 2011 (UTC)

Popular[edit]

It appears the novel has ran out of stock almost everywhere (in Western-Europe) and new books are yet to be shipped out to meet the demand. That's what I was informed via mail from our most popular online bookstores. Shocker. - Infinite - talk 16:58, 7 January 2011 (UTC)

who orders books online ,why dont you go out and get it at the shops you you are hurting the enconmoy.
heh i disagree with shopping online, businesses are closing down cause of internet shopping.
heh just redid it it cause for some reason keeps dissappearing from discussuion --The preceding unsigned comment was added by 61.68.101.40 (talk).
I think you need to study business and economies a bit more. ShadowRunner 01:20, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
No way, the ip is right. Buying things is bad for business. –~=Ϛρѧякγ AHHH! (τѧιк) ←♥– 01:39, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
I buy online, and yet I help my local economy. :D I just buy it from the local bookstore's online sites, and go to that bookstore later to pick it up when it is available. :D Makes getting new books much easier when I can just preorder from local stores. :D --AmannelleUser Amannelle Me.jpg 03:23, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
This guy might be a genius... Quick! Everyone waste precious limited fossil fuels instead of purchasing products online! In all seriousness Infinite, try seeing if you can order from the U.S. it should only take 1-2 weeks to get there and I can't imagine the shipping would be too awful. EiveTalk 05:17, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
But I seriously pre-ordered the book months in advance. Makes you wonder. I will have my copy by next weekend apparently. :P - Infinite - talk 22:51, 8 January 2011 (UTC)

Pre-quel[edit]

Maby add a little note that this story is taken place BEFORE the first book? 86.87.251.35 23:40, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

Why would they do that when you find out by reading it? -- Ocarinamaster 17:52, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
Personally I find such a note pointless, as no one ever said that the books would be released based on chronological order. Not to mention that by reading GoA, you'd know that DE is broken up already, and by reading EoD, you'd know that was the forming of the group. Those who wouldn't know this are either complete idiots and a note wouldn't be much help to them, or haven't read one of the two books and thus the note wouldn't really matter to them. -- Konig/talk 20:21, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
I know this discussion is a few days old, but I'd just like to clarify that this blog posting told us that the second novel would take place before the first, chronologically. I think I recall reading somewhere that the third book will take place before EoD, but I've got no source. So no, no surprises here and not worth a note imo. User ColdEden sig.gif ColdEden 21:59, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
i actually would have read this book first if i would have known that it takes place before goa oh well...-User Zesbeer sig.png Zesbeer 05:34, 15 August 2011 (UTC)

Lady Gaga[edit]

This book (as with others) was not inspired by lady gaga. Please see the brief discussions on the admin board. Please to all IP's, and possibly users, stop adding something of this nature. Venom20 User Venom20-icon-0602-sm-black.png 03:20, 30 November 2011 (UTC)

RO-FUL. That's hilarious. Thunderduck 02:22, 4 December 2011 (UTC)

Out on the edge of glory and i gunna hang another moment with you Out on the edge of glory, the edge , the edge , out on the edge of glory --The preceding unsigned comment was added by 61.68.106.177 (talk).

almost as silly as suggesting this is a reference to tenacious D.

Movie?[edit]

I like this book so much, i want it to be a movie. starring Troy Baker as Logan, Steve Blum as Rytlock, Felicia Day as Zojja, Owen Wilson as Snaff, Nicole Kidman as Eir, Kari Wahlgren as Caithe, Kiera Knightly as Queen Jennah, and Susan Silo as Glint. Any thoughts or suggestions?

Lore discrepancies[edit]

I'm reading the novel now, and even within the first eight chapters there are enough lore discrepancies with the game that it's starting to bother me. Stuff like:

"[Eir] looked at the two asura [Snaff and Zojja], only rising waist high, and at her wolf, who rose only to her ribs."

Unless Eir is the shortest norn ever and Snaff & Zojja the tallest asura, this is simply incorrect. According to in-game screenshots Zojja is maybe mid-thigh height to Eir. Also just checked ingame, Garm is slightly less than waist-high to Eir.

"[Caithe's] spike-heeled boots also looked like dark seedpods, lifting her three inches taller than she would have stood."

Caithe doesn't wear high heels in either her past or present forms in the game. I hope the author didn't try to imply she wore high heels to run and fight in the wilderness... (when the game cares enough to give her a reasonably practical outfit).

"The light ceased, and Zojja’s head popped from the opening, her hair slightly singed."

Zojja doesn't have any hair in the game. (Maybe she singed it all off 😂)

I will add to the list if I come across any more. -- Kazerniel (talk) 18:57, 13 July 2017 (UTC)

Price[edit]

Is there really a reason to list the price on here? For one, it links to Amazon, so it'll probably get changed pretty often especially since it's an older book now. And two, does the price really belong on the wiki even if we were to keep it up to date? --76.183.238.126 00:08, 1 August 2017 (UTC)