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2014-12-16 update[edit]

I started editing the page but have no time to fully document the new system today, so feel free to edit with more info. I updated the introduction, and "Achievement" section (before realizing that I was not logged in...) and the list of possible achievements. The Achievements section still has the dynamic table with OLD system - I really (really) don't know how these things work so it would be nice if someone can change it. List of possible achivements will need updates every day until we have the full list (and may need new sub-categories). We still need to document rewards (maybe add them in the "list of possible achievements" table and remove the "rewards" section ??). We also need a page for the new Login Rewards (if needed, I have listed them here : https://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/2phiqy/login_rewards_details/). Eowin (talk) 20:09, 16 December 2014 (UTC)

I already have knowledge about a few more days and somewhat know the system. I’m working on a full rewrite as we speak. For the login rewards, I already covered that completely. poke | talk 21:38, 16 December 2014 (UTC)
OK, nice :) . I guess it would be pointless for me to work more now if you're on a full rewrite. The supposedly full list of dailies has been datamined here if you need it : https://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/2phvfd/datamining_list_of_daily_achievements/ . Eowin (talk) 22:20, 16 December 2014 (UTC)

Rewrite progress[edit]

The rewrite is now done-ish. I still have a few more things I am working, particularly the rewards (there are actually a lot additional rewards I haven’t figured out yet) and of course the cycle. I’m currently keeping track of that locally but will update the research page soon with what I know. poke | talk 19:28, 19 December 2014 (UTC)

Not meaning to rush stuff as I know you are still working on this but can I leave some suggestions here? 1) What about formating the list of possible achievements as a table like before? Or were you already planning to do so? 2) What about putting that History section back, or is it also on plan? It's nice to know how daily system has progressed with time and what has changed. Just taking advantage to make some suggestions, no rush and take your time. Any helpful hand you may need, just let me know. --Txon Atana - (talk) 20:48, 19 December 2014 (UTC)
Thanks for the suggestions! As for the table, I’m not sure if you have seen the full list of achievements. It contains the full achievement details—like our other achievement lists—but in a slightly condensed format. As you can see from the list, there is really a large number of achievements, and many of them are the same, just for a different area/region. That’s why I opted for a simplified list on this article that just shows in general what kind of achievements there are, and also has some room for general completion hints. To be honest, I never liked the way the old “full” table was made since it contained a lot of vertical whitespace due to the notes column and the way it was condensed horizontally. So I made this simpler list (since things like description and objective are not really useful apart from purely documentary reasons); but of course I’m open to suggestions to make this a bit more visually pleasing.
For the history, I removed the old history from the article since it was rather incomplete. I have the full history (technically) on the Daily/Research page; my plan was either to use that research page directly for the history (after making it a bit friendlier for readers), or maybe to create a proper history page later on. poke | talk 00:08, 20 December 2014 (UTC)
I admit I hadn't seen the full list of achievement but I just take a look at it and I see what you mean, nice one btw. In fact, I liked the simplified way you did by grouping similar stuff together. Actually what I suggested was formating it using table as before but not like that full table again, it's more like it would be the list you made but put into a table. About the history, I see what you mean and my fault by not seeing the link in the Notes section, hehe. Keep the good work and I'll try to help with everything I can. --Txon Atana - (talk) 01:57, 20 December 2014 (UTC)
I think you should edit the part about the 15,000 cap because that is not yet in effect, and won't be until whatever release implements it. People are using the wiki to 'prove' it is a bug that their APs are not advancing. 75.82.64.5 01:02, 3 January 2015 (UTC)Inculpatus Cedo
You're right. I was initially planning to update this after 13/01/2015 patch. I see someone already put the number, so I'll edit the page. Eowin (talk) 09:51, 3 January 2015 (UTC)
Yeah, I was under the impression that this would automatically happen with the end of December. Guess not… ^^ poke | talk 16:46, 3 January 2015 (UTC)
We can't be positive the consolidation will happen on the 13th of Jan. The official announcement only states 'a release early in 2015'. Again, players may become disappointed, or worse, if that is not the release where the consolidation takes place. (Though, it may be the release where the cap moves to 15,000.) I suggest editing, once more. 75.82.64.5 02:06, 8 January 2015 (UTC)Inculpatus cedo

Different achievement table for accounts with max level 30-79[edit]

It appears there's a different achievement table for accounts with a maximum level character between 30 and 79. My highest character is 62, and for today's PvE achievements (4/6/15 UTC), the article says I should have:

  • Daily Shiverpeaks Miner
  • Daily Maguuma Vista Viewer
  • Daily Snowden Drifts Event Completer
  • Daily Inquest Golem Mark II

However, instead of Daily Inquest Golem Mark II, I have Daily Caledon Forest Event Completer. The other 3 are the same. Teshiron (talk) 06:07, 6 April 2015 (UTC)

PvE changed formats[edit]

I made a change to the format of the description paragraphs. I noticed that there are 4 main categories of daily rewards. I created a new set of them, which includes things like vista viewer and daily fractal.

I made the whole change as one edit. I was going to put it here first, but I couldn't get that to work right, so I did it on the real page. If anybody wants to discuss it, feel free to revert it. Then we can discuss it here.

But, if you make one-off changes, give it a day or two before, in case someone else wants to undo the whole thing. Daddicus (talk)

I like it, but you made a mistake with the fourth category: sometimes it's a leveled Fractal challenge rather than a world boss; the simpler "go into a Fractal" daily is always in slot 2, iirc. I'd also reword the introduction to clarify that one from each category is available each day. Finally, the PvP and WvW dailies also tend to be organized in a predictable way, so we'd need to rewrite those sections too. --Idris (talk) 03:12, 5 June 2015 (UTC)
Good catch. I think we should split the two kinds of fractal ones, since they belong in different categories. So, I propose removing that second sentence in the 1st reference to fractals. Then, expand upon the 2nd reference to describe the levels. Perhaps:
"Sometimes instead of a boss, a set of four fractals is required. When these come up, they're level-limited (1-10, 11-20, or 21-30)."
However, I avoid fractals, so I'm not confident with my wording. Can someone please make sure those sentences are correct?
Finally, on the PVP and WVW sections, I never play them, so I wouldn't even know the categories. But, it seems likely that they are divided similarly. Can someone else do that? Daddicus (talk)
Yup, I can do the PvP and WvW sections. Your Fractals wording is accurate, but I'd shorten it a bit to something like "the 4th category requires you to complete certain group content: a world boss or a full set of Fractals at a particular level range." --Idris (talk) 06:47, 5 June 2015 (UTC)
I don't think Exotic crafter is part of the cycle anymore, or the previous cycle - it certainly doesn't show in the source of the {{Daily}} template for previous cycle --BramStoker (talk, contribs) 08:16, 5 June 2015 (UTC)
I agree with both of you. I'll wait 'til the end of today to make the changes, in case anybody else wants to review it. I'll do it the hour before the daily reset. Daddicus (talk)
Unless something changes, I'm not going to be able to input the changes as planned. (I have an out of town funeral.) But, if anybody else wants to implement them, feel free. Daddicus (talk)
Done. --Idris (talk) 02:59, 6 June 2015 (UTC)
I love it! Excellent work, and I really like the whole simple/challenging change, too. I also note you or someone made similar changes to the PvP and WvW entries. Those look nicer, too! Daddicus (talk)
Thanks. ;) I did the writing, but User:Mora did the lovely compact formatting. --Idris (talk) 08:46, 7 June 2015 (UTC)

Jun 6 revert[edit]

Originally posted on my talk page: "I can't understand why you'd restore incorrect information an remove relevant information instead of "improving" what you felt was "ugly". Currently, there are no monthlies, whether they've been merged or not. The "cute" icon is redundant, appearing later in the article. ~ 1Maven (talk) 13:06, 6 June 2015 (UTC)"

I reverted it because I felt that the best way to improve it was to just undo your changes. The table was using up a lot of space to communicate information that could be written in a single line (and indeed it is already, in the notes); the "display" section seemed like pointless hand-holding; and the icon... well, mostly I just think it's pretty. But pretty images can be a good thing when they're breaking up a paragraph of boring text.
As for the monthlies, the information about them in the article is both correct and informative. The totals for monthly achievement points are still displayed in game, and players may wonder why they're there. Your edit claimed the merge has already happened, which (to my knowledge) it has not. You even removed the word "monthly" from the information on the dailies cycle, which is weird because the cycle is literally a month long. --Idris (talk) 14:31, 6 June 2015 (UTC)
What "correct" information about monthlies remains relevant? References to monthlies have been removed from the login screen, the hero panel and the graphical user interface. The Monthly page states "content is no longer available." ~ 1Maven (talk) 23:27, 8 June 2015 (UTC)
It's in the hero panel. Hover the mouse over your achievement points total in the top left corner and you'll see a tooltip that breaks down where the points came from: permanent achievements, dailies, and monthlies. This is why I believe the merge hasn't occurred yet. --Idris (talk) 09:41, 9 June 2015 (UTC)
Monthly achievement points may never be "merged" in the way you imply. They are gone, but previously acquired points are still credited to account totals. I've updated the article to reflect this. ~ 1Maven (talk) 12:14, 9 June 2015 (UTC)
Well, I've been trusting the blog post, since it says this: "in a release coming early next year, we will merge the existing daily and monthly achievement point caps into one pool", but now I'm not so sure. I found this edit, which claims the daily cap has been raised by 5k, but that the merge hasn't occurred yet. I don't really understand this, because a cap of 15k implies the merge has already happened (daily 10k + monthly 5k = total 15k), but if they've been merged then why are monthlies still listed separately? Unless they just increased the pure daily cap to 15k and plan on merging it to 20k later? --Idris (talk) 13:02, 9 June 2015 (UTC)
Is there anyone who's reached the daily cap who can confirm if it's currently 15k or 10k? --Idris (talk) 13:07, 9 June 2015 (UTC)
The way I read your reference, the merge already occurred in January, 2015. Although monthlies have been removed, prior monthly achievement points received are still credited to account totals and may be displayed using the Hero panel. I suspect that someone who reached the 15k cap made that edit since no number is given in the reference. I cannot confirm, being far from that cap myself. However, the total of all achievement points is far above 15k. One member of my guild has passed 27k and is still going strong. ~ 1Maven (talk) 14:14, 9 June 2015 (UTC)
I can't find any confirmation on whether or not the merge occurred; I know the blog post says they planned on doing the merge in early 2015, but it's entirely possible they're just late. You're just speculating the merge happened in January, and speculation isn't appropriate for the wiki. --Idris (talk) 14:57, 9 June 2015 (UTC)
Everything described has been implemented. Consider that it's now June, mid-year, no longer "early". For additional confirmation see Game Update Notes December 16, 2014. ~ 1Maven (talk) 15:39, 9 June 2015 (UTC)
I can't find any mention of a merge in those notes. I think you might be confused by this line: "Existing daily and monthly achievement rewards have been rolled into the new log-in reward system", which is referring to things like laurels and mystic coins, not AP. (Not to mention that those patch notes are for a December 2014 update and thus can't have included the merge anyway.) And I stated in my previous comment that ANet might just be late with the merge. Just because they said it was coming in early 2015 doesn't guarantee it's happened yet; we need proof. --Idris (talk) 16:04, 9 June 2015 (UTC)
I do not think that I am "confused". I do think that what has actually been implemented and documented in the release notes trumps the other reference. Don't overthink the word "merge". Until I see documentation that it has not yet happened, I choose to believe it has already happened, as implied in the release notes. ~ 1Maven (talk) 16:57, 9 June 2015 (UTC)
Please quote the line from the release notes that you're using as proof the merge occurred, because I don't see it. And can someone other than myself or Maven please weigh in on this? --Idris (talk) 17:23, 9 June 2015 (UTC)
If the in-game interface is still listing "Monthly" AP by themselves, then I think it's pretty obvious that nothing's been merged. —Dr Ishmael User Dr ishmael Diablo the chicken.png 17:34, 9 June 2015 (UTC)

(Reset indent) Ok, since Ish agrees with me and Maven hasn't responded after a few days, I've gone ahead and replaced the info about the monthly merge. It's in the notes section now instead of the intro. --Idris (talk) 17:13, 12 June 2015 (UTC)

Daily achievements API incoming[edit]

While not yet officially released, a seemingly functional API can now be seen at

https://api.guildwars2.com/v2/achievements/daily

Github pull request

This should lift the yoke of manual research from editors. With a finally reliable source, might we see a main page sidebar similar to the GW1 Wiki? — Sol Solus (talk) 22:38, 19 October 2015 (UTC)

Yeah, a Daily widget would be nice on the front page. Link to the appropriate Daily achievements once we add ids.--Relyk ~ talk < 23:40, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
I wouldn't be so keen on having an API query on the main page, wouldn't it be too slow? -86.131.79.9 23:48, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
https://api.guildwars2.com/v2/achievements?page=0 no need to translate IDs to achievement names. —Dr Ishmael User Dr ishmael Diablo the chicken.png 01:32, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
Woot! I had heard about it on forums and it's good to see it's coming. The current dailies has been so messed that's hard to track what's next :S --Txon Atana - (talk) 02:01, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
The result could be cached once a day instead of queried on every visit, if wiki code is able to do that. — Sol Solus (talk) 14:09, 20 October 2015 (UTC)

HoT Update Oct. 23, 2015[edit]

Desert Borderlands map

With the change to the "Desert Map" many features have changed. For one thing, it seems that the Daily for "Master of Ruins" is moot, since there are no ruins. Or maybe I have not yet found the locations that would grant that achievement. There are graphics for this new map around; it'd be swell if the wiki had one. --Gold Recluse (talk) 01:10, 26 October 2015 (UTC)

And the wiki does have one! --Gold Recluse (talk) 04:10, 26 October 2015 (UTC)

Daily Limitation[edit]

Is there any way to tell what percentage of ones total achievement points were gained from daily/monthly rewards? If so, how? Daddicus (talk)

First take note of your total. Then open the Hero window, ->Daily; ->Daily, look there for which Dailies you've completed and add up the points. Compare that to your total. --Gold Recluse (talk) 23:20, 1 November 2015 (UTC)
Not sure if this is what you meant, Gold Recluse, but a more direct way is opening the Hero window and mousing over the total achievement points in the upper left corner. A pop-up will appear listing the points earned separated into permanent, monthly, and daily amounts. --Cali (talk) 01:12, 2 November 2015 (UTC)
Thanks, guys! My pop-up shows about half from dailies. I sure hope they raise it, because it's my largest source (9000 plus out of 17k). But, tt probably means I'll never attain the numbers needed to get the radiant and hellfire skins. Bummer.
Thanks anyhow, though! That's what I needed to see! Daddicus (talk)
If you have 9000 AP you have earned three pieces of either Radiant or Hellfire skins. (Ref: Radiant armor, 'Aquisition') At 15,000 you should have 5 pieces between the two sets. Check your Wardrobe. You (and I, btw) earn another piece by 18,000 AP. You have to choose which set's armor you want before you receive the AP chest reward. --Gold Recluse (talk) 06:43, 3 November 2015 (UTC)
Oh, yes, Gold, I know that. But, to get all 6 pieces of either set, you have to hit 30,000. I'm slightly over halfway there, but I doubt I can reach 30k without getting more than 15k from dailies. At least, that's my concern, and the reason I wanted to know how to tell the ratios. I'm going to have to ramp up the points via sources other than dailies, or at least nudge the ratio of dailies to others down. Daddicus (talk)
Don't let it get you down. I recently read how few players have 30K. It seems that a year ago only 5 players had 30K (Ref: forums, Malediktus.9250, Nov 7, 2014). Some might consider the hours needed to put in each and every day would not be healthy. I play to enjoy. Festival content is a boon for both. --Gold Recluse (talk) 07:14, 4 November 2015 (UTC)
Oh, don't worry about that: I'm not down. I'm just having to reevaluate how I'll go about it. One thing I've learned from gaming is that if you're not the best, patience will win in the end. I'm certainly not as able to keep up to the younger set (I'm probably 30-40 years older than the average player). But, one thing I do have is patience. So, I know I'll get there eventually. Just not the way I was originally planning. Instead of 5-6 years (since inception), maybe 7-8. But, hey, I stuck around GW1 long enough to get 50 points in the Hall of Monuments. I can be patient, and I'll sure have fun doing it, I think. :) Daddicus (talk)

History for daily fractals?[edit]

Is there a history page for the daily fractals? Daddicus (talk) 22:41, 6 February 2016 (UTC)

Feedback 2016/03/13[edit]

It would be really nice to have the recommended fractals say which fractal they are. For example "Daily Recommended Fractal - Scale 10 (Molten Duo)" --Xiphia (talk) 20:27, 13 March 2016 (UTC)

Done, thanks for the idea! -Chieftain AlexUser Chieftain Alex sig.png 20:50, 13 March 2016 (UTC)
Awesome, thanks! --Xiphia (talk) 21:35, 13 March 2016 (UTC)

Feedback 2016/03/18[edit]

I've got a question and I hope this is the right place. I'm from Germany and I assume the wiki does recognize it and thus shows me the names of the daily achievements in German. I don't like that. Is there any way to change the language?37.201.214.93 21:08, 18 March 2016 (UTC)

Intriguing. While it may not fix the root of what's happening, could you try making an account (it's quick and easy) and setting your language preference to English (or French/Spanish, whichever you're aiming for). G R E E N E R 21:16, 18 March 2016 (UTC)
It's still in German, although my preferences are set to English :/ The preceding unsigned comment was added by Feothyr (talkcontribs) at 21:35, 18 March 2016‎ (UTC).
How strange. You're talking about the Daily bit that changes every day right? (same as Template:Daily achievements). May I ask which browser you're using (perhaps it is automatically translating certain bits of text?) or is the rest of the article in german too? -Chieftain AlexUser Chieftain Alex sig.png 22:51, 18 March 2016 (UTC)
Yep, that's the one. I'm using Firefox and no, the rest of the article is in English o.o I never translate texts - at least not if they're in English. Feothyr (talk) 23:01, 18 March 2016 (UTC)
Edit: Okay, seems like I got it. Changed my language preferences in the Firefox settings and now it's working! :) Feothyr (talk) 23:03, 18 March 2016 (UTC)
Bizzare. I guess the gw2 api picks up your language automatically when you query it. I guess I should specify the language as lang=en then. Thanks for your help identifying the problem, this probably affects other users too. -Chieftain AlexUser Chieftain Alex sig.png 23:19, 18 March 2016 (UTC)
That's possibly the cause. If I recall right, some servers support multi-language and changes the request based on the language sent by the browser, then possibly the API server redirected it to Germany as the browser told it so. Specifying it explicitly in the request as you mentioned could prevent this behavior indeed. --Txon Atana - (talk) 23:24, 18 March 2016 (UTC)
I've added the "&lang=en" bit as I said I would above. I expect you should be able to revert your browser language to german and it should (hopefully) stay the in english. -Chieftain AlexUser Chieftain Alex sig.png 23:26, 18 March 2016 (UTC)
I just gave it a try and it works! :) Feothyr (talk) 16:03, 19 March 2016 (UTC)

Feedback 2016/03/22[edit]

With the 03/22 patch, it appears that I am unable to do the hidden dailies as a level 80. Can anyone else confirm if this happens for them? Can <80 level characters get it? The preceding unsigned comment was added by 64.231.11.164 (talkcontribs) at 21:52, 22 March 2016 (UTC).

Actually, level 80 characters were never supposed to do those "hidden" dailies. It was a bug that was occurring on past days. Those "hidden" dailies (that weren't hidden actually) were supposed to be available only for accounts with none level 80 characters. --Txon Atana - (talk) 01:37, 23 March 2016 (UTC)

Could we have more detailed information for low level PvE dailies?[edit]

In the section for today's dailies, the greyed out dailies are the "low level only" dailies.
Should the table instead show specifically which dailies unlock for which corresponding max account character levels?
According to the note, there should be one for level 1 to 10, 2 more for level 11 to 30, and 1 more for level 31 and above. --175.142.33.214 20:46, 24 April 2016 (UTC)

Feedback 2016/04/25[edit]

Would it be possible to sort the daily fractal achievements?

"Daily Activity Participation" explanation[edit]

Could someone explain this? It always confuse me as there is no specific place to achieve this. Activities at specified place seems doesn't count into this. Grizzly007 (talk) 19:34, 30 April 2016 (UTC)

Participate in any activity. Today's activity is Southsun Survival. —Ventriloquist 20:25, 30 April 2016 (UTC)

Feedback 2016/05/19[edit]

I don't see the Chest of Daily Mini-Dungeon, or whatever it's called, but wanted to say I received a named exotic from it today, namely Drakevenom, so that can be added to its loot drop. --Inculpatus cedo (talk) 00:33, 20 May 2016 (UTC)

Chest of the Explorer is what you're thinking of. gz on the shiny though. -Chieftain AlexUser Chieftain Alex sig.png 16:31, 20 May 2016 (UTC)