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[edit] Is it just me?

2009 December Caithe dual weapons.jpg

Or is she weilding dual daggers/swords in the Races video? I thought she was implied to be a spellcasting class O.o The preceding unsigned comment was added by CelleyBear (talk • contribs) at 17:29, 18 December 2009 (UTC).

I noticed this as well, I'm sure in the artbook it says she is a necromancer, although that might be another Sylvari. --Santax (talk · contribs) 18:24, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
The one mentioned in the book is Trahearne, not Caithe. Erasculio 20:22, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
Perhaps its a melle/spellcaster class? Uses a mixture of melle moves and close range spells? --19pxaut (t) 20:44, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
Hmm, Assassins might still be in the game, i also saw a shadow step in the trailer so it's possible. 80.60.80.108 22:44, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
I was under the impression that the classes would be modernizations of the current core classes, (i.e. Knight for Warrior) though without an official announcement regarding the classes any guesses are mere speculation. However, I do hope it is similar in some way to assasin. It gives me hope! :D ★CelleyBeartalk
I also noticed that she was wielding dual daggers; however, I read that now weapons and armor can be designed freely among all races. She might be a spell caster who just uses daggers.--69.254.103.22 01:34, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
i think shes a assassin... i know they are still in the game
Daggers mean nothing. We have been told that weapons are tied to multiple professions ("If a player wants to wield a bow they will certainly have multiple professions to choose from.)". We've seen concept art of what could be Caithe wielding a bow and we see a concept art of what looks to be a ranger wielding daggers. -- Konig/talk 19:24, 27 March 2010 (UTC)
True, but even armor means nothing considering that armor is no longer tied to profession. At this point, she could be almost anything. I personally think she's a Summoner or something of the sort. --Spigs 12:16, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
Uh, what do I know, but in the voice actors video following up the second trailer, didn't Wahlgreen describe Caithe as a "tough warrior chic"? I know it made me and a buddy over vent immediately bewail a Sylvari being anything outside a druid/ranger/cleric-esque class. The daggers didn't help when being attributed to a good in battle warrior. Nykki

(Reset) There was a guy who predicted Logan to be a guardian a month before the official release, he also said that Caithe was an assassin and some info from the books was going to be in the game. Even though it's still speculation, my vote is on Caithe being an assasin --Universe 17:51, 10 February 2011 (UTC)

Did he specificly worded logan as a guardian or just as the second soldier profession, if so it's a simple gues that logan is the second soldier profession. Altough seeing Caithe in the trailer i don't doubt it that she is a adventurer class. But so far don't go believing predictions of someone based on easy guessing since it's only speculation, same goes for Caithe being a sin since we don't know wich upcoming professions are gonna wield what type of weapons under wich mechanic. Just be patient untill there is some solid info. Damysticreaper 18:22, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
This is what the guy (WinterWeaver) said: "in the book edge of destiny it's pretty clear that she is an assasin. and logan is a "Guardian" class?" The date of that comment was 1 month before the GW2 page announced the Guardian class. Just to clarify again, it was a guess, but it was also a correct guess. --Universe 11:39, 11 February 2011 (UTC)

[edit] Celtic/Gaelic root?

The name appears to have a Gaelic root, meaning something along the lines of correct or righteous, though I can't find an exact meaning for it. CelleyBear 13:44, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

All Sylvari names so far are Gaelic. Or Welsh. Or a mix. (Lol @ 'all' Sylvari names,... We only know two :/). --Naoroji My Contributions 15:08, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
That's neat. ^^ I didn't know that. I wonder if Caithe's name will reflect some aspect of the Sylvari storyline? (Possible spoilers hehe) --AmannelleUser Amannelle Me.jpg 15:16, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
All sylvari have a gaelic/irish origin. The entire race, even the Nightmare Court, is based off of this. There's a thread in the lore forum on GW2G that showed this, along with their connection to the Sidhe, and the Sidhe's connection to gaelic/irish myths. -- Konig/talk 22:46, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

[edit] Eve

Kind of feels like the "new" Eve in her demeanor and stuff. :] User Rose Of Kali SIG.jpgRose Of Kali 20:13, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

Not that surprising, tbh. But is Logan the new Devonna or the new Mhenlo? Eir seems to be the new Aiden, and is the new Cynn Rytlock or Zojja? :x :P -- Konig/talk 20:22, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
Well, it starts to get off track once you start mixing genders and races. This one is a pretty good fit, though. User Rose Of Kali SIG.jpgRose Of Kali 21:01, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
I'd say that Zojja is the new Cynn considering she seems to be an Elementalist. Also, she has that whole, "I'm better than you!" thing going on and probably something such as a, "If you don't listen to me, I'm going to burn you," remark. --Spigs 02:55, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
I thought Caithe did look sorta like Eve.(:--IcyyyBlue ♥♥ 20:16, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
Zojja is probably the new Cynn as Cynn was stuck up and thought she was better then everyone like Zojja. But Cynn was my fav character so I might end up likin Zojja lol!--IcyyyBlue ♥♥ 20:18, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
Zomg how can you NOT love Zojja? She's voiced by Felicia Day! ♥ ♥ ♥ --AmannelleUser Amannelle Me.jpg 20:26, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

[edit] Assassin?

"Her blades are as swift as a blooded sunset, her movement as silent as the fall of night. Caithe was among the first sylvari to step upon the earth of Tyria, but where the others turned toward the sun, she sought shadow. She has never been afraid to gaze into darkness – or to seek truths that others fear."

Sounds to me rather Assassin-like. Blades, shadow, darkness...--Spigs 03:04, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
If you find that Assassins return, then we can add it. Until then, that's complete speculation. -- Konig/talk 04:12, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
Not really, that would still be speculation. For all we know, Caithe may simply be a Sylvari aligned with Winter, or have some other reason for the description above. Even if assassins were announced, that doesn't mean she is one of them. Erasculio 11:37, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
Yes but it wouldn't be complete speculation. ;) -- Konig/talk 18:49, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
I'm not saying she is an Assassin. I was just pointing out that she seems Assassin-like, though I definitely think she's Winter-aligned, but I don't think that would make her "shadowy" or have an effect on her weapon-use. --Spigs 01:10, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
The devs have already said that character backgrounds will have absolutely no effect on gameplay. We're not even sure they'll affect the character's appearance. Arshay Duskbrow 02:28, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
It is quite likely it will have some effect on appearance. Such as how every Asura has the color of one of the colleges (presumably their college), and the Sylvari all seem to represent different seasons (such as wearing flowers instead of evergreen, etc). --AmannelleUser Amannelle Me.jpg 02:34, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
Ahem, storyline having no affect on gameplay? Is that what you read? It certainly was not what I read. Unless you aren't including storyline in gameplay, then you are pretty much right. And, tbph this only hints at what kind of a fighter she is, not on any specific class. We can't even derive from it whether she's an adventurer, soldier or scholar. CelleyBear 04:05, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
Judging from this wallpaper, I think it's safe to assume she's a ranger, given the stunt she pulled in the original Guild Wars 2 trailer. Fabala011 16:12, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
Issue: She has no pet. Also, she uses two daggers. Only profession able to do that thus far is elementalist, but I doubt that'll be the only one, especially since Zojja is clearly an elementalist. -- Konig/talk 16:22, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
Good point, I hadn't thought about the pet bit, and at first glance I thought the daggers looked more like short swords. In any case, if she's not a ranger then the whole "turn-stone-thing-into-moving-green-construct" ability has to be either a sylvari racial skill, or a ranger skill that Caithe only used in the trailer because ANet hadn't decided what to do with her or it yet. Fabala011 18:04, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
I think you are still forgetting about the Elementalist. An Elementalist is a master of the elements, therefore her ability to bring everything to life may be an ability of the Elementalist. After all, Rytlock and Logan appear to be the same profession, though Logan may end up being a so-called "Paladin". Zojja is clearly an Elementalist, and Eir (I don't know the correct spelling of her name) is definitely a Ranger. I must, however, admit that a group of travelers should often be a different profession. Therefore, Rytlock is probably the Warrior, Logan the "Paladin", Zojja the Elementalist, Eir the Ranger, and Caithe is probably one of the professions ArenaNet have not yet introduced. A Necromancer could be a possibility, and an Assassin is another option. We will not know the absolute profession until all of the professions are revealed beforehand. As for "Paladin", that was part of my speculation. I hope I haven't started an argument. Kroff 23:39, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

(Reset indent) So I think she is a necromancer (since this profession can dual wield daggers), it really fits her description. 82.131.206.106 22:58, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

She performs a dagger throw with her main hand dagger on this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=euqoqlhNc1c&feature=related nothing that the ranger or the necromancer can do. Lokheit 20:25, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
Considering the fact that he face lights up with some sort of glow the longer she charges the attack, I'd have to say that it looks more likely that she's an Elementalist charging up a fireball and releasing it. However, we haven't (yet) had confirmation that there exist any Elementalist dagger skills/utility skills that are "charge" skill so it could be misinterpretation. Just that glow seems more like fire and it seems to be coming from her offscreen dagger (instead of Zojja on the other side because the fire that Zojja casts didn't light up Caithe at all). 136.159.70.7 22:06, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
Well, we know every elementalist fire dagger skill and they don't look like this one. Aditinally, with Zojja being an Ele (as you can see her performing elementalist known skills on the same video), it would be redundant to have 2 on the same group of characters. Lokheit 00:47, 28 November 2010 (UTC)
I have read Edge of Destiny, and within the story she uses two white stilettos to attack. Never EVER mentions her using magic in any form, though she DOES use the Sleeper Hold. She defeats foes by finding and exploiting their 'weak spots'. She never speaks of anything even REMOTELY Ranger or Elementalist like. She is adept at setting traps and analyzing foes for weak points in melee combat. All in all, she sounds most like to an Assassin, and considering this story was sanctioned by Anet, any facts within SHOULD be considered canon, until or unless Anet posts information contrary to it. 99.241.34.49 02:10, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
While we're on the subject of the books, it should also be noted that she sets up a trap early on when she first meets Rytlock and Logan (with devourer stingers) so she follows sort of along the same idea that everyone has for Dougal (knowing about traps and whatnot). Also, she acts as a scout of sorts for the group so it seems to be following along the lines of an assassin hiding and whatnot (this part is speculation though). 161.184.88.202 04:16, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
Books are lore, not mechanics, so the people in the book won't fit perfectly with a profession in the game. (I still say dougal's a ranger that doesn't have a pet due to his weapons and trap expertise, but that's going against my very own argument here. ^^ ). Regarding the trap: Logan and Rytlock help set it up, furthering the argument that game mechanics do not limit the possibilities in lore, especially so for books. -- Konig/talk 04:41, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
Caithe was the one who explained to them how to do it and they just followed her lead afterwards. Although, thinking about it, Logan did set up that landslide trap so it's kind of a moot point. 161.184.88.202 05:09, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
Speculation time!!1!11!!! She's dualwielding two bladed weapons, either swords or daggers, that means she can't be ranger (they cannot dualwield either). She clearly is not wearing heavy armor, so warrior are out. Apparently in EoD, she does not seem to be a spellcaster (I haven't read the books). So that rules out the current classes. Some concept art pictures seem to have Caithe with a bow, that might mean something. So with all these points combined with her description... She seems like s a assasin of sorts. /speculation--Tuomir 09:14, 25 February 2011 (UTC)
She uses two daggers, and there is no concept art of her with a bow. You're thinking of this, which is not caithe. It's just a winter sylvari that looks a bit like Caithe, compare it to the concept art on the article, they're different. -- Konig/talk 09:18, 25 February 2011 (UTC)
I just remembered someone referring to that picture before as Caithe, so I just mentioned it without checking it... Anyways, it still seems unlikely that she's one of the existing professions, with only Elementalist and Necromancer able to use two daggers, and Zoija being more likely to be Elementalist than Caithe. Of course, she might be a Necromancer, but I just dont see her as one.--Tuomir 09:27, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

[edit] Season Alligned With?

Is Caithe spring,autumn,winter, or summer?--IcyyyBlue ♥♥ 16:40, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

I don't think it has been announced yet. Oh and when starting a new section on a talk page can you please click the + beside the edit button... that or put == == around the header's title. Thanks. --User Phnzdvn sig.pnghnzdvn 16:46, 26 May 2010 (UTC)
Ugh, they need to announce things faster>.<--IcyyyBlue ♥♥ 17:00, 26 May 2010 (UTC)
Purely speculating; Caithe is likely aligned with winter. Her hair is snow white, her skin is delicately pale, and her hair reminds me of iced pine, as well as her use of winter ivy in her outfit. Again, this is all just speculation, but if season DOES affect their appearance, then I'm guessing she's a winter. ^^ just my 2 cents. --AmannelleUser Amannelle Me.jpg 17:10, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

i hope so, cuz i love winter(: im makin myne alligned with winter if i can i have to make room for my dad a slot hopefully we have slots again!(:--IcyyyBlue ♥♥ 18:27, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

Although it's suggested that she's aligned with Winter, I think she might be aligned with Autumn. In this concept picture, she has leaves around her. Leaves are usually a nod to fall though it could just be design. --Spigs 07:39, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
Old discussion but I think she's winter - the concept art linked, connected to Night (which is for Winter sylvari) looks a lot like Caithe in terms of color, imo. -- Konig/talk 04:51, 28 November 2010 (UTC)

[edit] Nightmare Court member?

Could she be a member of the Nightmare Court? Ramei Arashi 05:14, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

I highly doubt it. The nightmare court seems...evil, for lack of a better word. Caithe is a hero, albeit a dark one Marin Alacet 06:58, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
"She is unusual in that whilst most Sylvari are creatures of light, she has never feared "gazing into the darkness" to seek "truths that others fear" sounds like Nightmare Court to me. Ramei Arashi 08:08, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
And yet, she's still a hero ;). The gazing into the darkness probably refers to her being either a Necromancer of an Assassin. --Naoroji User Naoroji Golem - Green.jpg 10:07, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
I always thought it meant she's aligned with winter, but I could see it meaning that she's an assassin. Based on the art book's description of sylvari necromancers viewing death as a natural course, I don't think the statement about "darkness" is referring to necromancy. Only time will tell, though.-- Shew 11:31, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
Or maybe it just means she actively seeks the nightmares in the Dream, not to embrace them but to confront them and defeat (?) them. I doubt winter/night are feared.-- Shew 11:42, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
I HIGHLY doubt Caithe is a member of the Nightmare court, since their ultimate goal seems to be, for lack of better words, to assimilate the Sylvari race as a whole towards this darker interpretation of the world. As you know, the Sylvari share an empathic connection, which most likely means that the more Sylvari join the Nightmare court, the more Sylvari as a whole will begin feeling emotionally "drawn" to the Nightmare Court. THAT is why the Nightmare court is such a problem-- One that Caithe probably opposes. :) --AmannelleUser Amannelle Me.jpg 12:03, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
I think you people need to review the trailer. "Evil threatens Tyria, but our Dream will lead us through darkness....to dawn." Caithe spoke those words. She is not a Nightmare Court. They are evil, and she is a hero. Arshay Duskbrow 15:09, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
Ooo nice quote, Arshay. I had totally forgotten she was the one who said that! :O --AmannelleUser Amannelle Me.jpg 16:16, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
That proves nothing. If she's a member of the Nightmare Court that is just the sort of thing she would say to make it seem she isn't. Ramei Arashi 10:53, 26 June 2010 (UTC)
So she's a member of the Nightmare Court, an evil group intent on living perverse lives and corrupting the entire sylvari race, because she enjoys darkness? Uhm, okay. -- Konig/talk 08:15, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
Also I don't believe we know of a single instance of Sylvari actually telling a lie. User A F K When Needed Signature Icon.jpg A F K When Needed 21:47, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
"My portrayal of Caithe came out of my innate idealism. It is easy for me to write a character who wonders why the world isn’t more reasonable and good. Caithe desperately wants to bring such a world into being." - J. Robert King, author of Edge of Destiny. I trust we can put this debate to rest now? Arshay Duskbrow 04:42, 24 December 2010 (UTC)
What we could do is wait for the release of the game. I am gonna play as sylvari and I will closely review what she says and does in-game and how others respond to her.--BookofTyria 02:37, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
It's rather clear that she is not a Nightmare Court member in EoD. She just isn't. -- Konig/talk 03:20, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

[edit] Suggest adding

Caithe: “Believe those who are seeking the truth. Doubt those who say they have found it.” It has only been a score of years since the first twelve sylvari awakened from the branches of the Pale Tree; a handful of lives scattered into the world like petals on the wind. These Firstborn were quickly followed by others, more and then more, until the Grove was born in the heart of the Caledon Forest. Caithe was among those first to step upon the earth of Tyria, but where the others turned toward the sun, she sought shadow. While her fellows revel in the beauty and joy the world has to offer, Caithe has never been afraid to gaze into darkness–or to seek truths that others fear.

From Kitchen Sink post Ruse talk (talk) 02:17, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
Kind of a late post but, should it be mentioned that Caithe is the first character (along with Faolain)in both GW and GW2 to canonically be identified as homosexual? I just think it's important because, like in most games, they haven't designed any characters other than heterosexuals for MMORPGs. Nice to see ANet is finally giving some recognition to all forms of relationships. (^_^) 161.184.88.202 23:25, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
I don't see how this is important at all. Considering sylvari don't have sexes. So it's physically impossible for a sylvari to be homo-, hetero-, or bisexual. -- Konig/talk 00:29, 31 December 2010 (UTC)
Where has it been officially stated that the Sylvari don't have sexes? In some of the screenshots there are both male and female looking Sylvari and while appearances may not fully designate gender, I don't remember any quotes that fully confirm Sylvari have no genders. And since both Faolain and Caithe are referred to as "her", I figure that it would be a relationship between two women. (Though I noticed that someone changed "lover" to "sister" in both of the articles, did someone double check on it and find that it's supposed to be sisters instead of lovers?). It's not important, per say, just an interesting trivia note considering this is the first non-hetero relationship (supposedly) broadcasted officially in the GW world. 161.184.88.202 01:10, 31 December 2010 (UTC)
In Ghosts of Ascalon, Dougal states that Killeen's feminine appearance is a lie/fake/something of that sort. Also, yes, they have both male and female looking models hence saying "sylvari don't have sexes" and not saying "sylvari don't have genders". They have genders, but its only appearance, hence they don't have sexes. Caithe, Killeen, and Faolain are "female," but for what we are told, they are only different to "male" sylvari on the actual appearance. And I do think someone stated that in EoD, the "gender is a lie" thing is reinforced. -- Konig/talk 03:11, 31 December 2010 (UTC)
Shame, really, that this merely was a homosexual relationship implied. If they want the "real feel" to the game, such relationships should also be properly introduced and not merely implied. Unfortunately a lot of gamers are severe homophobes (well, at least male-oriented homophobes). - Infinite - talk 03:18, 31 December 2010 (UTC)
That bites :( I thought that (finally) a game (especially an MMORPG) was going to give an actual representation that not all relationships fall within the "typical" category. /pout 161.184.88.202 06:11, 31 December 2010 (UTC)
I honestly don't see why a game would need such. It really feels like people want a video game to have certain things just to have them... which makes them seem really immature, at least to me. -- Konig/talk 07:50, 31 December 2010 (UTC)
Not trying to spark an argument, but how are homosexual relationships "immature" to want to see in a game? It's an everyday thing in real life, so you'd think... And they don't have to make it blatantly obvious. I'd betraumatized to see a Tyrian Gay Pride. Which is somewhat ironic, lol. - Infinite - talk 14:37, 31 December 2010 (UTC)
No, it isn't the relationship that's immature, it's the reason behind having them. Some people want things added "just to have them" more or less, making the scenes with said situation seem immature, naive, and sometimes outright perverted. And not to mention that people adding them "just to have them" is one of the strongest arguments people/media/parents have against video games (in their ridiculous argument/belief that video games should be for kids). Have them in all you want, just make sure that having them isn't botched into the game. Give meaning behind the scenes, don't just put lesbians in just because you like watching them and want them in the game. These two videos by the Extra Creditz crew shows what I mean. -- Konig/talk 19:18, 31 December 2010 (UTC)
I'm seeing it more from the side of a little representation. I mean, it's a fact that there are relationships that aren't the clear cut hetero-style (in a same sex relationship the roles of the man/woman are interchangeable and much more blurred, adding a unique dynamic to it). Almost all games seem to staunchly focus on "straight" relationships because of homophobia, trying not to appear perverted, wasn't in the budget, etc., and it would just be both a unique addition to relationship perspectives and a more "realistic" (to the point that a fantasy game CAN appear realistic) representation that these relationships do exist. All that aside, it seems like we're kind of getting off track, I was just suggesting we add it as a Trivia note, not to spark an entire debate about it in-game. (Any confirmation whether it's "lover" or "sister" or both yet?) 161.184.88.202 19:35, 31 December 2010 (UTC)

(Reset indent) We actually don't know that much about the Sylvari; we don't know if they can even feel romantic love, we don't know how they could express such feelings (would they feel anything with a kiss? Even if they have genitals, are they there for show or do they work like ours?) and we don't know how they interact with each other (do they all share a feeling of being family? Is that limited to those from the same generation?). Had the book stated that Caithe and the other sylvari girl were lovers, that would be interesting (regardless of the genre of those involved) as it would tell us a lot about how they work. Erasculio 22:16, 31 December 2010 (UTC)

Did the book actually mention any kind of romantic bond between Caithe and Faolain? As far as I recall, they talked about how Caithe "loves" her. Can't that just as easily be the kind of deep-seated love/hate for a best friend gone astray? That was the vibe I got from it, at least. 24.46.99.66 02:19, 12 January 2011 (UTC)
That's the same idea I got. People need to take the word "love" less literally. EiveTalk 02:57, 12 January 2011 (UTC)

I dont have much of a problem with them being "lovers" if it is truly what they are, but it is said that through the Dream Sylvari may feel a special and strong bond with a certain person or place. So maybe through the Dream Caithe was shown the future troubles of Faolain. Maybe her special bond is with Faolain, to love her and bring her back to light and purity the way she was supposed to be.--BookofTyria 02:45, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

If you ask me i say those 2 have a sister complex relationship with Faolain being the one with the complex. Damysticreaper 14:44, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
I read the book, and never ever did I get even a whiff of a romantic bond between them. This "love" appeared as something completely different from romance. I couldn't help but get this Zerg association going for the Sylvari, since that's kind of what they are. So this "love" may be some subconscious bond they share that's somehow for whatever reason more special than the generic Dream link between all sylvari. Also, it's Faolain who keeps saying that Caithe "loves" her, I don't recall Caithe admitting to the same. User Rose Of Kali SIG.jpgRose Of Kali 18:33, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
Kind of a late, last minute post, but when the Faolain article first popped up on this wiki I noticed it said "lovers" but was later changed to "sisters". Might be why IP thought they were lovers? 136.159.72.4 16:59, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
Ree Soesbee has clarified the nature of the relationship. They were indeed lovers, and I've updated the pages accordingly. Arshay Duskbrow 06:25, 10 August 2011 (UTC)

[edit] Thief

It seems likely she's a Thief, in EoD she talks about exploiting the enemies weakness by describing it as "lock picking". Plus she uses dual daggers much like the thief does. I'll add the info for now. - Phil 15:17, 5 March 2011 (UTC)

While it may be true, I wouldn't make definite conclusions based on the book. AoshimaMichio 18:28, 5 March 2011 (UTC)
As with Dougal, until we have confirmation, neither of them classify as thieves. - Infinite - talk 18:30, 5 March 2011 (UTC)
We don't even know what the third adventurer and scholar are. For all we know, the third scholar won't be a magic user just as the second soldier is a magic user. -- Konig/talk 19:04, 5 March 2011 (UTC)
And now according to gameplay scenes, it seems like the Thief on destiny's edge is Rytlock as he can use a Sword on his main hand an a pistol on his off-hand. See Rytlock discussion for more detail. Lokheit 23:09, 24 June 2011 (UTC)
Should it now be noted that Caithe is indeed a Thief? According to the new GamesCom demo video you can clearly see she's using Leaping Death Blossom. (It's near the end of the video) Video can be seen here: http://www.guildwars2.com/en/media/videos/ on the official Guild Wars 2 page. Tjal Lee
It is. First sentence. :p-- Shew 19:28, 17 August 2011 (UTC)
Where was it stated again NPC's don't have to use professions available for players? --you like that don't you..The Holy Dragons 21:24, 17 August 2011 (UTC)

[edit] New Concept Art

Since the concept art for Caithe has changed a bit due to the Sylvari redesign, should we update it? For some reason I feel it should stay as it is (since it's a CONCEPT art), but at the same time, I think it should be updated. Click here to see the new concept art. TheyCallMeIgi 18:36, 11 August 2011 (UTC)

Keep both and perhaps create an article in historical content regarding the redesign. - Infinite - talk 21:32, 17 August 2011 (UTC)
she looks really muscled there O.O --you like that don't you..The Holy Dragons 21:36, 17 August 2011 (UTC)

[edit] Caithe's Daggers

While there are probably earlier in game renders of Caithe with weapons, this screenshot that went up on the blog today brought to my attention the issue of consistency. Her daggers in the novel were white stilettos, which these aren't. Although it's a relatively small inconsistency, I think it would reflect sloppiness on their part if left uncorrected. Of course there could also just be an explanation I'm unaware of (she hung up her daggers out of grief from Destiny's Edge's disbandment or something)...

I'm not sure where to put this to bring ANet's attention to it, so I apologize if this isn't where I'm supposed to. 99.237.247.242 19:20, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

Well, time goes on, weapons change. She may have found better daggers than the ones she used last. :P ~ ♥ Kailani! ʕ •ᴥ•ʔ 19:53, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

[edit] One of Two People to have ever seen Zhaitan and live?

That line should really be updated because I am pretty sure Cobiah Marriner saw Zhaitan when he rose up again at the same time Orr returned.

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