Talk:"Grothmar"

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any1 got any source's of what the article says?? cause i never heard of it ^Teo^ 22:05, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

I think The Movement of the World -- br12 • (talk) • 22:06, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

maybe a note and a link to that page then?? ^Teo^ 22:15, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

I thought "Drakkar" was the water dragon? --Lou-Saydus 22:18, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

hmmm.. dunno rly ^Teo^ 22:28, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

nope.. Ancient Dragons this page says that it's 2 seperat dragons ^Teo^ 22:35, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

Drakkar would be an ice dragon imo. -- Armond Warblade 22:36, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

Yes, even though all the ice melts. :P Lord Belar 00:04, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

Drakkar can be D-Man, Water Dragon can be Scuba Steve. Problem solved. You hear me, ANet? Calor (t) 00:51, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

Scuba Steve! Damn you! I'm also somewhat confused as to the line between Water and Ice as far as Guild Wars goes, since the Water school of magic covers all Ice-related magic, and indeed the damage is simply "Cold" damage for the majority of it all. We won't know till more info or GW2 is released. --Cjad the Nord 20:46, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

Scuba Steve? Why not Steve Zissou? :P --MageMontu 19:58, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Is Grothmar really the Water Dragon?

It is just an image, but... there are large ships, perhaps frigates or something similar, in the OCEAN near the dragon. This does not fit the part of the dragon we see in the Charr homelands, it is merely a lake. The undead creatures of Orr on the other hand are ruled by an undead dragon, and as far as we know they have a navy. So either the image is just incorrect or the water dragon is not necessarily to be found in the charr homelands, but in the sea roughly south of Kryta/Tarnished Coast, where the sunken kingdom of Orr is located. --Longasc 22:08, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

That's clearly not an awaken dragon you're referring to, as there's grass growing on him. If it's the undead dragon, he wouldn't have grass on him and wouldn't be above surface. The reason for the boats would be that it's concept art, not an actual image of how it will look. Very rarely does concept art actually end up as a whole in the game. Also, since the image you're referring to is concept art for GW:EN and not GW2, it can't really be the undead dragon as he's not visible in EotN. — Galil 15:30, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, I see your point about the concept art and it is good. I have a gripe with the names. People call the dragon Grothmar because he is in Grothmar Wardowns - just like the "Drakkar" in Drakkar Lake. Drakkar means nothing else than Dragon, was used for longships with a dragonhead as well. We do not know the names of the dragons except Primordus, so far the names are nicknames, both Drakkar and Grothmar. They sound similar and very likely to be their names, agreed. But we are jumping a bit to conclusions based on assumptions, but actually it does not hurt. I just do not like it, but with only one article as source that states not much, we cannot do much more than that. Except waiting for more input. --Longasc 22:29, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

I don't mind nicknames based on explorable areas being used, as long as they are placed between inverted commas, so at least that way the reader knows it is a nickname and NOT the actual name. --Santax (talk · contribs) 10:26, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

You guys keep confusing this water dragon with the undead dragon of Orr, This guy "Scuba Steve" and the Undead Dragon of Orr are different. "Scuba Steve" flies south corrupting the land...the undead dragon of orr rises from beneth the sunken subcontient of Orr and rises it agin, enslaving the corsair navy that was exploiting the remains of Orr for bounty...the desert dragon goes and cuts of comminucation bewteen elona and tryia(contient)  !!!check the movement of the world article!!!

In EotN, it looks like has has layers of scales(?), and in the concept art, he's clearly in a different area with no layers, just spikes. But it is concept art, so you never know. 24.7.141.45 00:30, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

is he really going to be that huge in GW2? that would be crazy